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It's that time of year for me to poll the Pocket PC Addict reading audience to see what you are using these days for text entry? What do you use as your main entry method for writing on your Pocket PC? How satisfied are you with it?
Currently, I am still using the latest version of Calligrapher which if you aren't familiar with it, is a handwriting recognition app. I have a love/hate relationship with Calligrapher because some days I get near 100% recognition results. Other times, I make so many mistakes I get a headache.
To write this post, I am using a stowaway bluetooth keyboard, which gets 100% right, but isn't built into the Pocket PC, so you have to carry it separately. Its a very good add on, but I must admit I do not take it everywhere with me. So what built-in or software text entry method do you use the most? How happy are you with it?
After trying almost every possible input method I always come back to Fitaly.
Because I'm Dutch there is no Dutch text predictive text entry methods (f.e.Wordlogic) which also have macro functionality. So I choose not to have a Dutch dictionary but to have macro functionality.
I don't like writing on the screen that much so then there is only Fitaly
And if you use it long enough, you get very fast with it
Wouter
I have been using Calligrapher for 2 years. It still what fits the best my needs, though it's far from perfect. I don't like virtual keyboards.
I also use my Stowaway bluetooth keyboard when I have plenty of text to write.
I find myself using the Block Recognizer more lately, maybe its due to the familiarity with it from my days as a Palm user, but I find it really quick.
As for add-on software, TenGo kicks ass... tho their latest version dosen't want to play nicely with the latest HX4700 ROM update. Which is unfortunete... so I'm hoping for an update from them, mainly because for non-stylus entry (ie, finger tapping) its an excellent input method.
Bru...
Since starting to look for a way to write (not type, although often that's the only choice) Japanese along with English, and because I have a number of reports and documents to complete for my company every month, I have tried all sorts of SIPs. Some for both languages, some just for English.
A quick check sez... geez, I got 14 options under the "input" icon. And I'm thinking about sinking another $48 bucks into Monster Chinese which would add another 3 or so. It's difficult to find apps that will not only allow you to enter the kanji but because I am not good at "sounding" out the words I need something that can handle phonetic conversions as well.
As for English stuff, I've tried Calligrapher and have registered it. But I can never use it for more than two or three minutes at a time before giving up in frustration. I think, based on it's price and the amount I've used it, that each character I've inputted has cost me about $0.005. :?
I always fall back to the Resco Keyboard with Fitaly skin. (One of the e800 members on the Brighthand forums made the skin but, thanks to their recent databse problems you can't find there any longer.) For VGA resolutions there just is no better combo. Recently installed Kai's ABCeditor which allows you to edit the predictive input glossary as well as to import your .dic files from Word which has made a world of difference.
Using the fitaly skin and predictive input with customized word base I'm typing about 40 wpm.
I went through a Fitaly stage too. I guess I could get up to about 30 wpm but that was really trying. I am thinking of trying the TenGo keyboard to see if I can get the hang of it.
After learning about TextPlus in a Pocket PC Thoughts thread, I gave the TextPlus and FITALY combination a try. Wow! What a difference! Basically users will get a FITALY input with predictive words and phrases, which outdoes the built-in word completion by far! TextPlus allows users to lengthen the words and phrases shown in addition to adjusting the font size. Check out these features:
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· Dictionary based word list and phrase list help complete words and phrases after one or more letters are entered.
· Automatic update of the list of suggested words and phrases whenever you enter a letter or delete a letter.
· Unique Frequency-Based Intelligent Search Engine - the words and phrases displayed are always optimal.
· Support the following built-in input methods: Keyboard, Block Recognizer, and Letter Recognizer.
· Fully Customizable Dictionary
· Flexible database support allows you to compose in multiple languages and/or multiple subjects. Over 20 free TextPlus databases are included.
· Customizable Word and phrase completion options.
Hi there,
I noticed this combi yesterday also and I directly bought TextPlus. It has a Dutch dictionary and I can still use Fitaly. This is great!
There are some minor bugs though. One is that a part of the bottom row of the Fitaly keyboard is not showing when using in combination with TextPlus. I sent a support request too SmartCell Tech. but I didn't have an answer yet.
Wouter
wouterk,
Fitaly and TextPlus work together just fine for me. I am using Fitaly 3.5 with TextPlus on Windows Mobile 2003. TextPlus and Fitaly even works in landscape mode with NYDITOT 4.04. Hope your situation gets resolved!
Hi welovejesus,
I use Fitaly 3 (I don't have a VGA device) so that is the only difference I can imagine. As far as I understood, Fitaly 3.5 is a version only for VGA devices. I also use Windows Mobile 2003. So how can this happen.
It doesn't happen to you when you are in non VGA mode?
Wouter
Wouter,
Click on the following link and follow the discussion regarding Fitaly 3.5 working on Windows Mobile 2003 (first edition/non-VGA). Basically, I just ignored the warning message and proceeded with the installation and have not had problems.
ok this is me trying Tengo for the first time. First observations: the predictave text is fun to use. I am pretty darn slow at it so far. Will I get used to looking back and forth between the text and keyboard? Also, is there an easy way to add words to the dictionary?
I never used Textplus for the Palm, so is it compatible with any text entry keyboard on the market? In other words would it help to use it with the keyboard Tengo that I am sampling right now?
Hi Brad,
I don't think it would be a help with Tengo because Tengo uses a dictionary already. But I think it is possible to have those two working together but it stresses your processor a lot!
Wouter
In other words would it help to use it with the keyboard Tengo that I am sampling right now?
Brad: My reading is that Tengo not only uses a separate dictionary but, because its predictive input supposedly learns between sessions and the db has to conform to a unique design, you can't import a .dic file.
But in a word, "bah." Or "feh," if you like.
I checked it out too. "VGA Support" my kiester. I'm getting a QVGA keyboard tucked down in the corner on a VGA screen. C'mon Resco figured this out two years ago. I realize I'm using a VGA hack but that shouldn't be a problem for an advanced app.
Anyone here know if Tengo can be hacked to work in "real VGA?"
(OT BTW- when I first heard about this keyboard I thought that it might be a Japanese application. Tengo is very close to "tango" (単語) which means "a word" or "vocabulary." But it also sounds a little like "dengo" which is not a proper word but could be read as 電語 which would mean "electronic language." In the end it doesn't look like it has any relation at all to the language.... just thought it was interesting.)
It is important *not* to select within Fitally that the default SIP becomes TextPlus while at the same time having TextPlus select Fitaly as its default input method. If someone makes this mistake they will have to hard reset their device
I am using block recognizer and transcriber mostly. I too love/hate calligrapher for the same reasons Brad stated, but mostly for the memory the thing eats up.
It is a great app don't get me wrong but I love memory more. May try tengo but sounds like something I won't like. Trying to figure out transcriber though. Does it correct spelling or no. It says something about corrections but the gester just brings up the keyboard. Do I have to load a dictionary?
Don't like any of the others and have tried them all. Still looking for the thing that fits just right. Block recognizer is the best so far.
I am using block recognizer and transcriber mostly. I too love/hate calligrapher for the same reasons Brad stated, but mostly for the memory the thing eats up.
I've never paid too much attention to the memory used by Calligrapher. :? Might have to investigate...
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It is a great app don't get me wrong but I love memory more. May try tengo but sounds like something I won't like. Trying to figure out transcriber though. Does it correct spelling or no. It says something about corrections but the gester just brings up the keyboard. Do I have to load a dictionary?
Transcriber doesn't correct spelling. You can type in Pocket word though and use that spell check. I don't like the little keyboard that is used with Transcriber personally.
Transcriber doesn't correct spelling. You can type in Pocket word though and use that spell check. I don't like the little keyboard that is used with Transcriber personally.
Actually it does -just downloaded vs. 1. 5.1 & it is very good. No regular keybord still though. Character keyboard is much better -Looks like Calligrapher's.
Hey kamikun ... there is a fully VGA compatable version out there, its ver 1.23. I got it directly from them, after e-mailing them about the lack of VGA support with version 1.22. BUT... if you are using a HX4700 with the recently released ROM update, do Not install 1.23, it will lokc up your device completly, requiring a hard reset.
Bru...
PS. If you want 1.23, I can e-mail to you.....trial that is.
Hey kamikun ... there is a fully VGA compatible version out there, its ver 1.23. I got it directly from them, after e-mailing them about the lack of VGA support with version 1.22. .....
PS. If you want 1.23, I can e-mail to you.....trial that is.
Bru- Using an e800 and it looks like I will be until a more provocative device (i.e. the HTC Universal) is available. Yes. I very much would like the trial version. I'm on about day 6 of my initial trial with Tengo so if you could send that along in the next day or two please do!
You didn't say how well you liked the app. Did you register? Are you using it regularly?
Thanks.
Oh ehhe, forgot to throw out my 2C on it I loved it, thought it was excellent... but after upgrading my ROM on my HX4700, and re-installing it... it would lock up the device Solid. So I didn't register, at least until they release a compatabile version for my updated 4700.
Bru...
My husband has an Cingular 8125, running WM5. Transcriber simply will not work! When words are written, it's interpretation is so far off as to make one think that some essential element was not set properly. Has anyone else had this problem? I, myself, have an Axim X30, running WM2003 SE and the Transcriber program works just fine.