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Old 01-06-2006, 07:15 PM
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We have the Palm Treo 700w. We want ALL your questions! Get help here!



That's right... we finally have in our hands the Palm Treo 700w! We just picked it up from the Verizon Wireless store last night and we are ready to give it all we got. But as you already may know there are already tons of reviews of the 700w out there. That's where Pocket PC Addict comes in. We want you to control the review. That right, we'll be your hands and eyes.
This post was created so that we can answer any questions, that's right ANY questions that you may have about this new device. We know your curious, so have at it!
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Geez, not everyone rush in here at once... :roll:
Seriously, did you buy this for yourself? If you've used a VGA device in the past how does this compare?
The biggest fear seems to be a lack of memory. Can you use plug-ins and other programs without a lot of app juggling? The one-sentence take over at PPC Thoughts was: "If you're a power user, this is not the device for you." The corollary to that is I guess, "If you liked Palm Treo you'll love WM which is sort of a Treo+."
Thinking I'm gonna hold out for the CPC. Nothing in the market looks nearly as good as my 2 year old e800 with WM2003 (FE).
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Treo 700w and K-JAM

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Geez, not everyone rush in here at once... :roll:
Seriously, did you buy this for yourself? If you've used a VGA device in the past how does this compare?
The biggest fear seems to be a lack of memory. Can you use plug-ins and other programs without a lot of app juggling? The one-sentence take over at PPC Thoughts was: "If you're a power user, this is not the device for you." The corollary to that is I guess, "If you liked Palm Treo you'll love WM which is sort of a Treo+."
Thinking I'm gonna hold out for the CPC. Nothing in the market looks nearly as good as my 2 year old e800 with WM2003 (FE).
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Yes I'm sad that it took about 3 days from someone to ask a question. I thought people would be a bit more excited about this!
The Treo 700w is actually the boss' new toy, but I get access to it just for the sake of this forum.
I have used a Dell Axim x51v and lets just say its not exactly apple and oranges but the Treo 700w is just a smaller darker one. .
I will see if I can get the Axim x51v in my possession to take pictures side-by-side, but I can tell you now that the screen on the Treo 700w isn't as bright when on its default setting (i'm guessing default is optimal for average battery life). In the meantime I have included pictures of the Treo 700w and the i-mate K-JAM side-by-side so you can see how brightness compares:
This is with the default brightness setting (sorry for the blurriness):

This is with maximum brightness setting:

As you can see the default brightness on the 700w is a bit dimmer than the K-JAM. But when compared with maximum brightness you can see that the K-JAM's display washes out the color. The Treo 700w pars fine.
I'll post up an update when I get the Axim x51v in my hands. But you should know for now that you get a lot less screen real estate since you will be running 240x240 instead of the VGA's 640x480 resolution. This is also even smaller than the Treo 650 which runs at 320x320.
Memory does fine for day to day use (plugins and all), but as with all Pocket PCs "too much" going on at one time can slow it down.
I'm not too sure what a "power user" entails but if you require running something that takes a lot of processing power, then sure, it might not do its best there since it only runs an Intel PXA272 312MHz processor (most VGA Pocket PCs run Intel's 624MHz proc).
We'll see how the cPC compares when Dualcor gives something to us.
And you're right. Your Toshiba e800 still does rock.
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Re: Treo 700w and K-JAM

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Yes I'm sad that it took about 3 days from someone to ask a question. I thought people would be a bit more excited about this!
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I'll post up an update when I get the Axim x51v in my hands. But you should know for now that you get a lot less screen real estate since you will be running 240x240 instead of the VGA's 640x480 resolution. This is also even smaller than the Treo 650 which runs at 320x320.
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I'm not too sure what a "power user" entails but if you require running something that takes a lot of processing power, then sure, it might not do its best there since it only runs an Intel PXA272 312MHz processor (most VGA Pocket PCs run Intel's 624MHz proc).
We'll see how the cPC compares when Dualcor gives something to us.
Yea, I think the problem here was that while there is a lot of buzz about the machine, most of the people who would seriously consider getting one are corporate enterprise users or "non-tech" types who just want a functional machine. I define a power user as someone who enjoys constantly tweaking and reforming their PPCs (in this case) in an attempt to get more functionality out of the unit than an average user would or just to see how far they can push it. That all said, I think your boss will be happy with the device if what he's looking for is an extended Palm type device with the Windows name.
It probably would have been better to go ahead and post your shots than to wait for slackers like myself to take the lead by asking questions. The pictures are nice and that backlit keyboard looks sweet. Those shots will prompt a lot more interest than an "open thread." (imho)
I look forward to your Axim comparison shots.
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From a user interface standpoint (the keyboard, and all the hardware parts) how does it compare to other devices? I've heard some people complain about blackberry like devices because the keyboard seems to get in the way when you're not really using it.
Also, I think most of the hype for this device is that having a Palm device running a Windows Mobile OS is a tombstone for the Palm OS. So for those of us who have always preferred Pocket PC it is a kind of vindication of our claims that PPC's would eventually be either as good as or better than Palm.
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From a user interface standpoint (the keyboard, and all the hardware parts) how does it compare to other devices? I've heard some people complain about blackberry like devices because the keyboard seems to get in the way when you're not really using it.
Also, I think most of the hype for this device is that having a Palm device running a Windows Mobile OS is a tombstone for the Palm OS. So for those of us who have always preferred Pocket PC it is a kind of vindication of our claims that PPC's would eventually be either as good as or better than Palm.
I'll admit, what I love most about the Treo is how it handles the keyboard when not in use. The keyguard is great. If the device isn't used for a few seconds the display turns off. To turn it back on simple hit the End/Power button and then the center key to turn it back on. This prevents mishaps while in your bag or pocket. I'm glad to see that they kept this "Treo 650" feature.
I'm not sure what you meant by "not really using it" so I'll also answer it this way. It doesn't get in the way while I'm doing other tasks. The keyboard buttons are perfectly sized and positioned so that they are unobtrusive yet still providing tacile feedback when typing.

I'd love to see when a Treo 700p will peep itself. Then we'll truly see what mobile OS reigns supreme (but I'm sure you already know which one that is )
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Yes I'm sad that it took about 3 days from someone to ask a question. I thought people would be a bit more excited about this!
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I'll post up an update when I get the Axim x51v in my hands. But you should know for now that you get a lot less screen real estate since you will be running 240x240 instead of the VGA's 640x480 resolution. This is also even smaller than the Treo 650 which runs at 320x320.
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I'm not too sure what a "power user" entails but if you require running something that takes a lot of processing power, then sure, it might not do its best there since it only runs an Intel PXA272 312MHz processor (most VGA Pocket PCs run Intel's 624MHz proc).
We'll see how the cPC compares when Dualcor gives something to us.
Yea, I think the problem here was that while there is a lot of buzz about the machine, most of the people who would seriously consider getting one are corporate enterprise users or "non-tech" types who just want a functional machine. I define a power user as someone who enjoys constantly tweaking and reforming their PPCs (in this case) in an attempt to get more functionality out of the unit than an average user would or just to see how far they can push it. That all said, I think your boss will be happy with the device if what he's looking for is an extended Palm type device with the Windows name.
It probably would have been better to go ahead and post your shots than to wait for slackers like myself to take the lead by asking questions. The pictures are nice and that backlit keyboard looks sweet. Those shots will prompt a lot more interest than an "open thread." (imho)
I look forward to your Axim comparison shots.
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Roger that!
If you define a power user in that sense then I think that any Pocket PC device is a playground for tweaking! While writing this post I did notice that it lags when downloading e-mail messages in the background... but since it has EV-DO that pain only lasts for a few seconds.
And correction: we actually have an Axim X50v in-house. I have the unit in posession now, but I'm waiting for it to charge up so that I can take untethered pictures of it side-by-side with the Treo 700w. I'll post these pics up later today.
For those who are wondering the major difference between the X50v and X51v is the operating system. The VGA display is still the same on both and will work fine for this comparison.
Until next time!
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...I'm not sure what you meant by "not really using it" so I'll also answer it this way. It doesn't get in the way while I'm doing other tasks. The keyboard buttons are perfectly sized and positioned so that they are unobtrusive yet still providing tacile feedback when typing....
That's exactly what I was talking about.
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Shoot, I ran out of time today but I was able to take a whole bunch of pictures. I also decided to throw a hw6515 into the mix... stay tuned for a comparison!



Hopefully this will make you drool for tonight...
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Comparison Pictures of the Treo 700w, iPAQ hw6515, and X50v

Okay, so I finished taking pictures of all these devices and putting them up for the world to see. I'll leave some comments for each one...


Which one do you think looks the best?




As you can see the Treo 700w is a bit thicker. The hw6515 and X50v are about the same in thickness.




Need another view? Here they are stacked on top of each other. No "trois" jokes here...




Here is the 700w and X50v in low light. Look at all that screen real estate lost on the Treo 700w!




Here is the 700w and X50v in no light and maximum brightness. As you can see the X50v has bright capabilities but are a bit washed out.




Here's a close up of the two. It's weird seeing the exact same picture look different on two devices.




The 700w and the hw6515. The iPAQ looks like a fatter unsucessful brother to the Treo. The Treo is so much better looking...




As you can clearly see, the Treo 700w wins in the display department by a landslide. I never noticed how dim the hw6515 was...




Here are the keyboards side-by-side. Which one do you like better? I'll take the Treo.




The Treo 700w in the dark in all its glory.




Here's a close up of the Treo 700w's display. Dang look at my reception. "Can you hear me now?" NO!




Man, I love the Treo's keyboard so much I'll show it again. Now that's a beaut'.

So there you have it. The Treo 700w, The HP iPAQ hw6515, and the Dell Axim X50v. As you can see the hw6515's display is a joke compared to the other two. the Dell Axim obviously has better resolution and also better brightness than the Treo 700w, but the 700w does just fine in that category. The 240x240 screen definetly makes you lose a lot of screen real estate but it's the sacrifice you'll have to make if you choose the Treo.
Hope this helped you out. Any more questions? I'm all ears.

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The Treo looks thicker to me than the ipaq and the dell. Or is that an optical illusion?
If it is considerably thicker does it hurt your opinion on it in anyway?
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The Treo looks thicker to me than the ipaq and the dell. Or is that an optical illusion?
If it is considerably thicker does it hurt your opinion on it in anyway?
Yep, the Treo 700w is a bit thicker than the others. I actually like the thickness. Because it is a bit thicker than the others it feels good when holding it. And no, the new edges on the back of the unit doesn't make it feel any better than the Treo 650. The thickness also makes it feel less flimsy and it "stays" in my hand. Motorola Q fans can start bashing now.
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I am reeeeeeeally wondering about this device. My old Toshiba ( God I hate that damn company so much) Finally bit the crapper and Thankfully my wife has a Palm pilot so she knows how helpfull they are to me. I am thinking about getting this or the HP rx 1950. I faithfully lugged around my old toshiba and even though I could do more than the other fellas that had the older version of the 19xx line I always envied how EASY that damn thing was to carry around. Soo, with that in mind I am debaiting the two. I wont get the Treo for a bit since I am waiting for Sprint to Support the 700 (They only support the 650 atm and I will wear a pink plad suit before i use palm) so here is my question (Sorry but i felt the backround would assist you in giving me clear answers)

1. I am a victim of buying a phone / camera/ video capturing device and my phone does all that but sucks at all three. Is the camera a high quality camera? I take photo's for my job, nothing major but I need clarity and the ability to take larger aspect and close up without them being blurry and sometimes in dim light. Basically I would rather carry two devices that perform their job well but I am really hoping that the Treo may solve it all, or hope it will.
2. How clear is the blue tooth sound? In other words is using the blue tooth going to make me worry about not just signal strength of my cell phone but also of the clarity of the earpiece to my treo?
3. How does it perform with spreadsheats of 1mb as far as opening, scrolling and opening mulitiple sheets?
4. How is the speed with Adobe documents of a fair size? (Couple of Meg)
5. Can you test the battery life with say some extensive tests such as taking it fully charged and playing songs continuously? Yes it is tougher than I may do but I do work alot on it and want to have an idea of how long it would last IRL conditions.
Surfing the internet on it wont really be important to me cause I can sync the ppc up and do what I need to with the cable attatched to it and storage isnt an issue cause SD cards are really so damn cheap. I really did like the Toshiba itself (The company support sucks terribly) but I found it soo damn big that I would have used it more if it was as convinient as the HP one, which is why i am REALLY considering buying it. So I have to make a choice, Either wait a few months for a treo and suffer or buy the HP and just keep lugging around both phone and ppc but doing it alot easier due to the size. I am a PIM and Email junkie so the Treo really really appeals to me but damn, I have to justifuy 500 smackers (Estimating) when for a few hundred more i could get a laptop. Sorry that my first post is an autobiography of a dude-with-a-new-toy disease but this is the best site I have found after seeking answers for a long time. Thanks tons!

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I am reeeeeeeally wondering about this device. My old Toshiba ( God I hate that damn company so much) Finally bit the crapper and Thankfully my wife has a Palm pilot so she knows how helpfull they are to me. I am thinking about getting this or the HP rx 1950. I faithfully lugged around my old toshiba and even though I could do more than the other fellas that had the older version of the 19xx line I always envied how EASY that damn thing was to carry around. Soo, with that in mind I am debaiting the two. I wont get the Treo for a bit since I am waiting for Sprint to Support the 700 (They only support the 650 atm and I will wear a pink plad suit before i use palm) so here is my question (Sorry but i felt the backround would assist you in giving me clear answers)

1. I am a victim of buying a phone / camera/ video capturing device and my phone does all that but sucks at all three. Is the camera a high quality camera? I take photo's for my job, nothing major but I need clarity and the ability to take larger aspect and close up without them being blurry and sometimes in dim light. Basically I would rather carry two devices that perform their job well but I am really hoping that the Treo may solve it all, or hope it will.
2. How clear is the blue tooth sound? In other words is using the blue tooth going to make me worry about not just signal strength of my cell phone but also of the clarity of the earpiece to my treo?
3. How does it perform with spreadsheats of 1mb as far as opening, scrolling and opening mulitiple sheets?
4. How is the speed with Adobe documents of a fair size? (Couple of Meg)
5. Can you test the battery life with say some extensive tests such as taking it fully charged and playing songs continuously? Yes it is tougher than I may do but I do work alot on it and want to have an idea of how long it would last IRL conditions.
Surfing the internet on it wont really be important to me cause I can sync the ppc up and do what I need to with the cable attatched to it and storage isnt an issue cause SD cards are really so damn cheap. I really did like the Toshiba itself (The company support sucks terribly) but I found it soo damn big that I would have used it more if it was as convinient as the HP one, which is why i am REALLY considering buying it. So I have to make a choice, Either wait a few months for a treo and suffer or buy the HP and just keep lugging around both phone and ppc but doing it alot easier due to the size. I am a PIM and Email junkie so the Treo really really appeals to me but damn, I have to justifuy 500 smackers (Estimating) when for a few hundred more i could get a laptop. Sorry that my first post is an autobiography of a dude-with-a-new-toy disease but this is the best site I have found after seeking answers for a long time. Thanks tons!

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First of all, welcome to Pocket PC Addict! Reading from your post, I can tell that you value portability as well as functionality (who doesn't?) in a device. I'm sorry (or should I be glad?) that your e740 finally died. It's good to hear that your wife is understanding your passion in Pocket PCs and hopefully I can help you out so you don't have to put on that pink plaid suit!

I'll just answer each question posed in order:

1. I am a victim of buying a phone / camera/ video capturing device and my phone does all that but sucks at all three. Is the camera a high quality camera? I take photo's for my job, nothing major but I need clarity and the ability to take larger aspect and close up without them being blurry and sometimes in dim light. Basically I would rather carry two devices that perform their job well but I am really hoping that the Treo may solve it all, or hope it will.

The Treo 700w has a standard 1.3 megapixel camera. And because it is a PDA camera you obviously aren't going to get point-and-shoot results. Now that's not to say that the camera outright sucks, but lets just say you need to have optimal lighting conditions to get a picture to look the way you want it. So since you are sometimes in dim light, I would suggest that you not rely on the camera portion of the unit.

2. How clear is the blue tooth sound? In other words is using the blue tooth going to make me worry about not just signal strength of my cell phone but also of the clarity of the earpiece to my treo?

Bluetooth is wonderful on the 700w, in fact most people would probably choose this route over bringing the device up to their ear (you can discuss about Zack Morris in my other thread). The sound is clear, if not clearer when you use a bluetooth headset. It also depends on what bluetooth headset you use however, I'd recommend something from Motorola or Jabra. Also, don't get the AA/AAA battery powered headsets as they are just plain bulky and will weigh your ear down. Just remember to be within about 5-10 feet of the Treo and you'll get stellar results.

3. How does it perform with spreadsheats of 1mb as far as opening, scrolling and opening mulitiple sheets?

I haven't opened a spreadsheet that large on the Treo, but I can tell you that it isn't the greatest in performance when loading something that large. Scrolling depends on the zoom of the document and because the device has a square resolution of 240x240, you are getting less screen real estate.

4. How is the speed with Adobe documents of a fair size? (Couple of Meg)

Again, just like a larger Excel spreadsheet it also takes a bit to load PDF documents of fair size. If I'm not mistaken, PDFs are loaded dynamically meaning that the Treo doesn't load the whole PDF at one time, it depends on where you are in the document.

5. Can you test the battery life with say some extensive tests such as taking it fully charged and playing songs continuously? Yes it is tougher than I may do but I do work alot on it and want to have an idea of how long it would last IRL conditions.

Hmm... in real life I'd say the battery does a pretty good job for what it is. Unforunately I don't have much time to continuously play a song continuously. It truly depends on whether or not you have bluetooth on, how bright your screen is, if you are in service (not being in service drains the battery because the phone is looking for a signal (which in turn takes more battery life)), and lastly what your ActiveSync schedule is if you are using it with Exchange. I'll say this: I've tested it against a Treo 650 and I'll admit that the 650 did a better job with the battery than the 700w. I'd give the 700w average marks on battery life considering the battery life was nothing superb.

You're right about the Toshiba in many ways. It is a great unit, but it also is huge! I actually have a e740 laying around the office and it is about a little less than an inch wider than the 700w. The 700w is also a little less than an inch shorter if you don't count the antenna (about the same if you do), but the e740 still beats the Treo in thinness.

Honestly, if you are just a PIM and E-mail junkie, I would recommend that you just get the HP rx1950 as planned. The money that you have to throw down on the Treo wouldn't be worth it, also they will probably make you get a data plan to get the discounted price too. And it'd be pointless to have a device like that without the internet plan. The rx1950 is actually the same form factor as the old h4155, so I hope you don't think it is AS thin as the old h1900 series. The rx1950 still packs a punch for what it is, I'd recommend that one in an instant. And since it has Wi-Fi and Bluetooth connectivity, your internet connection is there for your e-mail (just not everywhere).

If you just "tough it out" and get the HP, you might actually think about staying with it instead of getting the Treo altogether.

Thanks again for posting, please let me know if you have any other questions, or if anything that I have written isn't clear to you (as I know that I can just go on and on about something).

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It honestly depends on if you like a slide out keyboard, or one that is not covered. The 6700 also runs at a standard 320x240 resolution whereas the 700w uses a 240x240 resolution. Personally for me, I like the form factor of the Treo 700w, but I also like the the keyboard layout and full screen resolution of the PPC-6700. The anntena on the PPC-6700 is hideous however.

Performance wise, the PPC-6700 outperforms the Treo 700w no question. If you are looking for performance, I'd definetly go with the PPC-6700. The 700w might seem faster when it comes to opening menus or moving through applications, but at the end of the day it comes down to the 312MHz proc on the 700w, versus a 416MHz proc on the 6700.

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That post is exactly what I needed to see and hear. I am sure that the HP will be exactly what I need. I have to tell you that I am pretty excited about it. And to be completely honest the Toshiba was actually damn good but what I hated about it was that I purchased it not knowing that PPC Windows 2k3 was just about to come out and toshiba didnt offer upgrades. Hell you couldnt even buy it, something I was willing to do. The size also turned me off, I am a gadget guy and I was so caught up in function that I didnt think about one simple thing, Who cares what it can do if it is too inconvinient to carry around.
I have heard some negative things about the HP like the multiple soft resets, the batter at 1% issue (The e 740 actually had the same problem and I had to get a new one sent to me from the company) and all that but to be honest, I am looking forward to it because its something with a slim case I can actually carry around, even in a shirt pocket and not worry about looking funny. Do you know of any other sites like this one that may have a good bit of info about my new PPC the HP ? Thanks and I am a faithfull newcomer. This is without a doubt the best presentation and the clearest information for general information about PPC I have seen. Many of the sites speak Geek-en-eese ( I say that out of ignorant envy not insulting) so thanks for the effort and pride you obviously take in this site.

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As a former Treo User (Treo 600) I was hoping to move up to the Treo 700, but TMobile didn't carry them... However, I know my Treo was horrible with Internet connections, while my MDA is good enough to tempt me to continue surfing on it instead of using the laptop... which is really surprising.

How good is the 700 for surfing the Web, for reading news and sports? Does email clog the memory?

But, as Tim, mentioned, boy do I miss the keyguard function!!!

Have fun, Tim... try the Treo with Mobipocket... I suggest reading Ed Howdershelt's novels... they are science fiction and historical fiction with a touch of erotica (hey, they are meant for adults!)

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Thanx "Big Tim". U just helped me win a $100 bet wit that littlte bit of HUGE info. Thanx again homie!!!!

P.S. Everybody be sure to check out www.tagworld.com/murc and www.myspace.com/murcialago and get a sample of the hottest up and coming hip hop artists!!! ( yeah i know, SHAMELSS PLUG, Lol )
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Manny:

The Treo 700w isn't my my main device as I am a hardcore GSM user , although the EV-DO is quite nice since it offers a speedy connection to the net.

The Treo 700w fares well with surfing the web, it can do it a whole lot faster than my K-JAM can but the I'm just not used to the square screen.

I haven't had THAT much e-mail fill my Treo 700w, but it helps to keep attachments on the SD card.

I'll try MobiPocket sometime and let you know how it works!

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Glad to help buddy. What was the $100 bet that I helped you win? Also, when are you going to buy me a drink with your new winnings?

Let me know, I'll be waiting...

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Hi Tim,

I currently run a Blackberry server with Blackberry devices. I have just upgraded my exchange server to 2003 which has push email to Windows mobile devices and so I am looking to phase out the BES server. So I have looked at the Qtek 9100 so far and wondered how it would square up to your Treo, your thoughts?

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Tim: this might sound foolish, but I'm really impressed with the Tengo smart keyboard program... does it work on the Treo700?
I'm asking because the keyboard on all of the PPC's is a bit slow... something the Tengo solves with "smart" software.

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I actually have the Qtek 9100's identical twin, the (i-mate K-JAM) as well. Both will work fine with an Exchange 2003 server implementing push. However there are some things I like in both devices. The Treo 700w's square screen isn't the greatest with all programs or with long e-mails, but the form factor is the "defacto" in a smartphone--some people will only choose this form factor. It's compact the buttons feel nice. The i-mate K-JAM has the standard 320 x 240 resolution as well as a slide-out keyboard. I like it, but it does get a bit bulky when open. The K-JAM however has 802.11g WiFi, something that I wish the Treo 700w had. I'd probably go with the Qtek 9100 over the Treo 700w.

And I applaud you for getting rid of BES.

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Thanks for the advice Tim, I am now trialing the Qtek and will give you feedback once I have finish.

As to the BES it has done me proud but the devices let it down due to lack of functionality so it is time to move on.
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Originally Posted by Murcialago
Thanx "Big Tim". U just helped me win a $100 bet wit that littlte bit of HUGE info. Thanx again homie!!!!

P.S. Everybody be sure to check out TagWorld :: Murcialago - Home and www.myspace.com/murcialago and get a sample of the hottest up and coming hip hop artists!!! ( yeah i know, SHAMELSS PLUG, Lol )
Sorry to hijack this thread, but I had no idea you were a rapper . Now I understand the copyright infringement bit from Brad's other thread. Best wishes with your career!
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Switched from RIM to Treo 700wx...switching back, here's why....

I am a former employee of MSFT (Exchange support for 5+ years through the E2k and E2k3 releases). I now work as a Senior Systems Engineer\Lead SQL DBA for a mid-sized managed hosting firm. I write this not to be an asshole but to point out some problems with WM 5.0 in hopes they will be addressed

- I use various applications (SQLSentry, IPMonitor, SiteScope, and others) to alert when servers go down or SQL jobs fail via SMTP. In my Exchange environment, I use subfolders of my inbox to sort the various alerts as well as mail from clients and supervisors. Blackberry alerts me of new messages irrespective of the subfolder the message is sent to. Windows Mobile on my Palm 700wx does not alert me when an email is received that has been routed to a subfolder of my inbox. Nada, nil, nothing. As a result, I have been slow to respond to messages from clients and supervisors. Messaging options should inlude alerts for messages to subfolders.

- Blackberry allows me to customize my alert for high-priority messages. WM 5.0 does not. I use this function to differentiate between an email from my Wife and a server down. This is not negotiable for me or for other IT pros in the field.

- The battery life of a the 700wx is brutal. For reference, my Blackberry 8703e has not been plugged in today. I've been on the phone working remotely and received in excess of 250 emails. This was all done on an overnight charge. The Palm Treo would have been dead by 2:00 PM. This is a direct result of the reliance on the ActiveSync technology and constantly checking (sending the token) to the the Exchange Server. I spent over $75.00 on cradles and chargers so that I could keep the Palm charged no matter where I was working.

- the interface. it's better in WM, but there should be an option to see all new mail in a single screen. additionally, the agenda for the calendar is useless. the blackberry agenda shows all dates that hold appointments in a list. the wm agenda requires that I move from week to week.

These concerns are not limited to an IT professional such as myself. Microsoft actively encourages customers to use Exchange folders to sort messages. WM must provide a similar functinality. Ideally, different alerts could be assigned to senders in the same manner as ring tone can be assigned to callers. Do you receive more email or phone calls from your customers or supervisors? The features should be adjusted accordingly.

Our shop is pure Microsoft, and we host assets for some large banks and other customers. I would love to be able to remove BES from the environment and move to Windows Mobile. However, BES has worked flawlessly for us. Until WM can overcome some of the obstacles to everyday usage that the current devices prevent, we will have to stick with RIM.

Remember, features win short term but functionality will always win long term. I don't care if I can watch movies or listen to music on my phone if I am going to miss communications from my customers.

You can find my palm device on ebay at
eBay: Palm Treo 700wx for Sprint PCS (item 220047397855 end time Nov-14-06 05:52:19 PST)

I replaced it with a Blackberry 8703e.
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